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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
Anywhere near the Boston area?
Blue Eyed Devil- Devils Advocate
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Me and this (BEEP) has been into pretty heavy. Pay Pal froze his account and now he seems to be freaking out. I got an email from him this morning. He told me that he would send it out and send me a tracking number no later than Monday. This has been said before so I'm not holding my breath. I'll see how it goes. I thought about telling him I'd drive up and get it but after the words we have had I figured I end up at a closed up shop and no one around. I can't stand all this new age computer tuff guy crap either. Most of these guys hide behind the keyboard acting like Billy Badass. Dives me up a friggin' wall. He says that he owns a hot rod shop and he's been open for 44 years. He sure doesn't act like it..
Thanks for the offer Benny but with what all has been said he may be a little funny now and I wouldn't want anyone to walk in some place and the shit hit the fan over a deal that is mine. I wish I was closer so I could just drop in to scare the shit out of him but that's a long ways. LOL.
Thanks for the offer Benny but with what all has been said he may be a little funny now and I wouldn't want anyone to walk in some place and the shit hit the fan over a deal that is mine. I wish I was closer so I could just drop in to scare the shit out of him but that's a long ways. LOL.
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RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Understand what you mean Steve. I hope it works out for the best. However if he does continue to be a pain in your (BEEP) just let me know. I can have the Boston boys pick up your axle for you with no worries about any shit hitting the fan. That's what friends do. Besides, I am sure he would be much less of a "tough guy" in person. Let me know if you need any help whatsoever...
Blue Eyed Devil- Devils Advocate
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Thanks Benny. It means alot bro.. Hopefully he will man up and just send it.Blue Eyed Devil wrote: I can have the Boston boys pick up your axle for you with no worries about any shit hitting the fan. That's what friends do. Besides, I am sure he would be much less of a "tough guy" in person. Let me know if you need any help whatsoever...
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
keep us posted
xycho_wraith- Forum Junky
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Good news! I got the stuff I needed today. Granted I didn't get all of it but at least I got what I wanted. I figured I'd sell the axle or put it in stock. He kept telling me he could not ship it because of the size. I told him to cut it. He sent me the two ends with about 3 or 4 inches of the cut axle. At least I have what I needed most.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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I broke down the front end for a rebuild. I've never messed with king pins and heard all the horror stories about getting them loose. I guess I got lucky 'cause it was no big deal.
You can see where that yahoo cut the axle. What a goof.
Took me a few minutes to figure out how to get the drum loose but I got it. The scary thing was when I took the cap off it was full of water. I poured it out and took it apart but there was nothing rusted inside. The bearings and spindle all looked bright and shiny. Not sure how they would look good with water sitting on them. The thought came to mind that the guy may have pour the water into the hub and screwed the cap back on but I hope he wouldn't be that dirty. The grease was clean and thick so I guessed it save all the bare metal parts.
You can see where that yahoo cut the axle. What a goof.
Took me a few minutes to figure out how to get the drum loose but I got it. The scary thing was when I took the cap off it was full of water. I poured it out and took it apart but there was nothing rusted inside. The bearings and spindle all looked bright and shiny. Not sure how they would look good with water sitting on them. The thought came to mind that the guy may have pour the water into the hub and screwed the cap back on but I hope he wouldn't be that dirty. The grease was clean and thick so I guessed it save all the bare metal parts.
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RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
at least u got it
xycho_wraith- Forum Junky
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RebStew wrote:He kept telling me he could not ship it because of the size.
So how does this jackhole reckon that axles get from place to place? Teleporter? Ugh. Anyhow, glad you got your stuff. Just an FYI - Midwest Early Ford in Springfield is having a one day 10% off sale this Saturday, so if you were thinking about buying brake parts, bearings and such now would be a good time to do it, especially if you were going to be in the neighborhood for the Springfield Swap Meet anyways. This is the first time I have EVER heard of them having a sale!
Blue Eyed Devil- Devils Advocate
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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
Some things have changed since I started this project. I wasn't digging the S10 frame so I found a set of fully boxed rails with a sweep in the front. I mounted the cowl and used tubing to brace it.
Then I started on the frame work for the body.
I sat a block down in it to see where I wanted the front cross member.
I also used the plazma cutter to get rid of those ugly brackets on the rails. See above pic
The stock front cross member was right on but it was a little thin so off it came.
Then I started on the frame work for the body.
I sat a block down in it to see where I wanted the front cross member.
I also used the plazma cutter to get rid of those ugly brackets on the rails. See above pic
The stock front cross member was right on but it was a little thin so off it came.
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RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
I cleaned up the rails. I was going to use a 2X4 laying flat but I didn't like the look. I flipped it on it's end . It's stronger that way and it will give me another inch or more of a drop with it this way.
The sweep messed me up a bit. The frame went up, leveled out and before cross member started back down. This left me with about 4 degrees the wrong way for my perch. I set the 2x4 at 7 degrees but the lean looked funny to me. I set it at 3 and will take the other 4 from my spring perch. Totle of 7 all togther. With the 2x4 laid back some I had to make a pie cut in the bottom and pull it shut.
Added a small gusset. Mostly for looks but it will help hold a little. The little hole will get welded shut but for now it's a great spot to ground the plazma or the welder.
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RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
I found this for sale on the HAMB. I had to have it.
I'm going to run scooter style fender on the front. Alot of the older rodders used spare tire covers for fenders and I love the beadwork in the early 50's style covers. I snatched this one from the Nash and will be cutting it up.
I'm going to run scooter style fender on the front. Alot of the older rodders used spare tire covers for fenders and I love the beadwork in the early 50's style covers. I snatched this one from the Nash and will be cutting it up.
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RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Oh man, cutting that up is a shame. It'd look alot better on the back of my Merc. The license plate mount and light that we used on it came from an old Nash like yours.
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I have my front engine mounts almost done. A little more shaping and metal finishing and they will be ready to paint.
Used some paper to get the style I wanted.
At least the broken jack came in handy for something.
Transfer shape to metal.
Used some paper to get the style I wanted.
At least the broken jack came in handy for something.
Transfer shape to metal.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Alot of grinding
Tossed them on the drill press and shot a few holes through them.
Tossed them on the drill press and shot a few holes through them.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Moving on to the front perch. I may not run a grill shell so I wanted the front to be real clean. I welded the perch on then ground the weld down smooth.
I don't grind my welds and after I did it I was a little worried about how good the weld is with it ground down. I let it cool and then rewelded it. Fighting with looks verses form and function I still didn't like the look and ground it smooth again. I then went to the inside and put a nice bead all the way around the inside. It's not going any place now.
I added some gussets to it for looks more than strength but I'm sure they help hold some too.
I don't like a spring over perch setup because your u bolts is what is holding the weight. I didn't want the perch sitting way up off the cross member either. I thought about it long and hard and figured I'd do the spring over. That will get the front end lower without the tall front perch..
I don't grind my welds and after I did it I was a little worried about how good the weld is with it ground down. I let it cool and then rewelded it. Fighting with looks verses form and function I still didn't like the look and ground it smooth again. I then went to the inside and put a nice bead all the way around the inside. It's not going any place now.
I added some gussets to it for looks more than strength but I'm sure they help hold some too.
I don't like a spring over perch setup because your u bolts is what is holding the weight. I didn't want the perch sitting way up off the cross member either. I thought about it long and hard and figured I'd do the spring over. That will get the front end lower without the tall front perch..
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Re: Bread & Butter 27 Ford Project
I've been wondering what to do with the a pillars.(windshield)
It looked like it was reaching for the sky. It was tall.
It took 7" out of the A pillars and dropped the winshield down to give it a smoother flow.
It looked like it was reaching for the sky. It was tall.
It took 7" out of the A pillars and dropped the winshield down to give it a smoother flow.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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After looking at the pics and looking at the car between welding I may pie cut the post and lean them back. The flat windshield doesn't look very ??sweeping. So if I don't change my mind I will lean the A pillars back to let the look flow better.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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3 days ago I headed down to Olive Hill, Ky to hang out with The Carter County Cruisers. John had a S10 rearend in his Chevy and wanted an F body rearend to swap. I needed the S10 and I had some other parts for the club so I loaded up the parts chaser and took off for the day.
F body rear
S10 rear end loaded up.
F body rear
S10 rear end loaded up.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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The next day I went out and bought some perches for the rearend and made a temporary 4" block to lower the rearend. I wanted to get the rear low so I could to start getting the ride height figured out.
With the s10 rearend in place I toss on the cheater slicks too.
I got the front end mocked up to see what I had to work with.
Templates again were made and that old jack came in handy again.
With the s10 rearend in place I toss on the cheater slicks too.
I got the front end mocked up to see what I had to work with.
Templates again were made and that old jack came in handy again.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Still have to clean up the holes in this picture but you get the idea.
Cleaned the bones and hacked off that front spring hanger.
I put one little weld on the bracket and ran out of wire
I'll stop by the store tonight and pick some up and hopefully get the front end on it's wheels soon. Some guys to lower the front end drill holes in the bones and run a hanger mount. I didn't have the cash to buy a set from Speedway so I just made these. I've seen it done like this before. I like the look.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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Steve was not happy he ran out of wire at such an early time (10pm). Considering he doesn't leave the garage until almost daylight. I told him he needs a 24hr Lowe's. It's coming together wonderfully. It always amazes me to see the work my hubby can do.
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That is SWEET. Was wondering what was going to happen with that cowl after you broke the 12 pack of Dr Pepper. Nice job on the tubes for the body. I look foward to how it shapes up. If you any help let me know. You have a way with sheet metal and fabing that I envy.
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I was more worried about my pop being shook up than the cowl but The Dr Peppers were all okay.puddin head wrote:That is SWEET. Was wondering what was going to happen with that cowl after you broke the 12 pack of Dr Pepper. Nice job on the tubes for the body. I look foward to how it shapes up. If you any help let me know. You have a way with sheet metal and fabing that I envy.
RebStew- Scrounger's Pitbull On Nitrous
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I've been working on the tub almost every day. Some days I get alot done and others it seems I sit more and look trying to get my back straight from bending over welding. I need a lift to get the low spots up to my level.
Vickers stopped down yesterday and hung out. He started cleaning my garage up from bordom so I handed him the grinder and told him if he's that bored make himself usefull. He worked on the brackets on the right side and got the frame rails smoothed out better. Cut some old sheet metal up and made alot of headway while I was woking on the bones and the front end stuff. It was cool that he came down and worked. A couple of hand on a car gets stuff done pretty fast. Riggs and Scott showed up through the day too. I know some people don't care for it but I'd rather hang out at my garage or someone elses garage and work, goof off or just hang out than do these cars shows some times.
The 4X8 sheet of 16 gauge was in my way so getting some of it on the body helped open up my entrance to the garage door again. I had to finish the tubing for the tub first and then start measuring for the skin.
Alot of measuring and triming to where you want everything. Then drag out a ton of clamps.
Vickers stopped down yesterday and hung out. He started cleaning my garage up from bordom so I handed him the grinder and told him if he's that bored make himself usefull. He worked on the brackets on the right side and got the frame rails smoothed out better. Cut some old sheet metal up and made alot of headway while I was woking on the bones and the front end stuff. It was cool that he came down and worked. A couple of hand on a car gets stuff done pretty fast. Riggs and Scott showed up through the day too. I know some people don't care for it but I'd rather hang out at my garage or someone elses garage and work, goof off or just hang out than do these cars shows some times.
The 4X8 sheet of 16 gauge was in my way so getting some of it on the body helped open up my entrance to the garage door again. I had to finish the tubing for the tub first and then start measuring for the skin.
Alot of measuring and triming to where you want everything. Then drag out a ton of clamps.
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