should we keep this thread?

[RebStew]

hahhaha.. I just wondering how it will turn out. We sure have some sensitive people around here.

[John B]

What no option for us who care careless either way.


Amie has given me the gift of thick skin.

[fuel10922]

The thread may cause too much division between others in the club and on the forum. We all have a common interest with cars, but on other subjects we may not agree.

[big dogs 42]

ITs a free country if you dont like it dont read it all you have to do is left click your mouse and go on!!

[RebStew]

lol I'm starting to like this thread more and more...lol I think we needed it if for nothing else but to shake some cobwebs off some of you guys!..

[big dogs 42]

Those sensetivity class's I had to take are really paying off what you think?

[LRS30]

Everybody is entitled to my opinion thats for sure . But I was taught at a young age it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought stupid than open it and remove all doubt.. ..(My opinion, and mine only not endorsed, or supported by other member's, other than myself.)I personally don't see why we need to bring religion, politics, or racial commements into the mix. My .02 if it makes me thin skinned, a pussy, a jackass or makes you think more of yourself, makes you a tough guy or what ever you may think then so be it. I have nothing to hide, and if someone wants to know my opinion ask me face to face and I will tell you my views, instead of hiding behind a faceless sign in name, where nobody knows who I am, where other's around the world may read, and get the wrong idea about me or others I am associated with. Alot of stuff can be taken out of context when typed into a thread(trust me I have been on both end's).So it makes not difference to me if it stays or not, as Big Dog said it is a free country, to say and do as you please.So in my opinion I think this is a poor excuse to use the forum to stir up shit and create controversy, because its been a little slow due to it being summer. I guess it worked! Good Job! "IF MY OPINION MAKES YOU MAD, PISSED AT ME, REMEMBER ITS MY OPINION" And you can look the other way, delete it, think I'm a pussy, print it out and piss on it I don't care, VIVA LA HOT ROD!

[FalconEddie1964]

I'd hit the quote button but that's too much to reprint. A small amount of thought went into all that by LRS30 and of all people to agree with .... I agree.

[JRiggs]

i agree 2.....................

[1/2done]

I like cars. :pirat:

[RebStew]

I like cars. :pirat:

me 2 lol

[big dogs 42]

I like cars also but a question was asked and i gave my opinion and i don't care if Obama himself ask me why i said that i would tell him or anyone else face to face why i wrote what i did its a free country and i dont have to love everybody and make nice my wife says im a {A} and shes probley right I let a lot of crap roll of my back but one thing people can say about me is i say what i mean and dont care who likes it! Where i come from my ancestors would be spinning in their graves with the thought of the crap this country is in. People wake up before its too late!!! So go to your church, vote for who you like and love whatever car you car to own and ill do the same this is my last post on this subject before i piss someone off.

[RebStew]

I posted this thread for two reasons.
One: The forum WAS slow and I thought some talk about something other than cars may be in order. It wasn't to cause trouble and start a gang fight or anything. I look at the club as being almost a second family. I have invited everyone into my house as others in the club have done and treated everyone like they were kin folk. I figured that we could have an intelligent conversation about anything on the forum just as we do in person. It was never put on there to get a raise and to tick anyone off. The replies such as I may not have anything else to say here and why we need to bring religion, politics, or racial commements into the mix is an over kill to me. If you don't want to talk on here any longer then don't and there was never anything said about race or racial comments. I wouldn't stand for anyone running their chops about someone elses race on the forum. I just thought we were all adult enough to be able to talk about anything without the other side getting ticked off.
second: I left a forum about a month ago because someone ask something on religion. There were a few that posted about his question, me being one and the rest of the pages were people ragging on the guy. If they didn't want to be involved with his topic then why open it and read it in the first place. The MOD ended up shutting the thread down because of everyone running their mouth. Pretty much what has happened here. I don't expect any of you to understand this but I felt bad that someone couldn't speak freely without getting ripped by everyone and the MOD shutting down his post. I find it funny that I and other I know have to watch TV shows with their kids so I they know what they are watching, if dirty stuff or things kids shouldn't be seeing comes up, the tv goes off. I can sit here at my computer and type this and a pop up of porn can come up while I'm typing with girls giving BJ's and no one care but if you say something about religion or the way the country is run then you guys get offended. I left that forum that shut the post down and PM'ed some guys I spoke to one there and said you can come to the Scroungers Forum and be able to speak your mind about anything you wish to without getting jumped on. A few guys followed and some of you have been talking to them on this forum BUT I guess I was wrong.
I didn't put the thread on here for religion, politcs or any one thing. it was just on here in case someone wanted to say soming. Even if it was to simply say that running disk brake on a 30's rod is not traditional. I feel that no one is going to feel the same way about everything that the other does. The difference in caveman and some of the rest of us is that we can speak about differences without taking a club to the other person.
I was saved and become a christian after I joined the club years ago. I don't push my beliefs on anyone and have never ask anyone on here to go to church or try to preach to them. I do however still thrive to educate myself. I'm curious about what other people believe and how it all work. I also believe in the right to debate about how our country is ran and other things that may fill me in on something I'm missing.
With all that said let me say that this is my own opinion and that it has nothing to do with club politics or anything else pertaining to the club. It's just the way I feel personally. So if I offended you then pick up your stick, stop down and hit me with it if it makes you feel better.
I will give everyone a chance to reply to this if you feel the need and Mondy we can lock it down since that is the way the club is leaning. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement.
Steve

[Lady rebel]

I'm not a politican by any means. But my Christianity means EVERYTHING to me! I got saved at age 9 in the Baptist church. Backslide for awhile during my teenage years. But 8 years ago I came back to the Lord and got saved. This time in a Pentecostal church. I've read on the forum about others asking for prayer. That had nothing to do with cars. That was not a problem then. Why should it be a problem now? But there is alot of power in prayer! Have you tried it lately...

Anyway, I don't know alot about cars. I try to learn, but most of it don't sink in. So this can be a chance for anyone to talk about anything. If you don't agree with it, don't click on it. I can't wait to see how this turns out.

Amy

[6-71Kid]

I don't see why this would have to turn in to an absolute bashing forum because we added a SEPARATE section to debate contraversal topics. I belong to another forum, http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/index.php, where everybody has originally come there for help with there Suzuki GS bikes. But they have added an off topic discussion area where people can talk about pretty much anything. What is really cool as that you will see two or more have a very intense discussion on politics and at the same time the same people will be helping each other with problems with there bikes. Its pretty impressive that all the member police each other and mostly behave. So I don't see why you can't have a site that people come to because there in to one thing( hot rods) and when they have different ideas on another (politics)that they can't talk about them both on one website.

I know me personally that I don't know what to think about religion. I believe that there is something bigger out there but I have a hard time beliving in any organized religion.

[Striping Stew 54]

We all have our freedom of speech ,and we can all express our opinion at anytime we want ,and thats why I think we should keep the right or wrong thingy on there because every once in a while someone wants to express how they are feeling.

[RebStew]

I know me personally that I don't know what to think about religion. I believe that there is something bigger out there but I have a hard time beliving in any organized religion.

This is one reason why I thought the thread would work and be helpfull and not harmfull. Just to get to know some things about each other if they wanted to share the info. Just to talk about whatever. Cole I don't really believe in organized religion either. I don't feel that being in a Penicostal church is better than Catholic church or a Buddhist Temple. I feel if you know you are living the right way and you know you are going to heaven then you will. If you are not sure then you better check yourself, but one religion is not better than another. You just have to know what feels right to you. I don't think you really have to go to church to make it into heaven. I'm sure I'd hear some grief on that one from some people but that my personal views and thats why I don't mind sharing them here on an off topic thread on a car forum.

[LRS30]

An opinion is just that, an opinion, right, wrong, indifferent. I never said which way I would vote,or even if I will vote,or if I have ever voted, or if I am allowed to vote. I never said anything about anybodies religion, or whatever invisible man, woman, child, or animal someone may worship. I never said anything about bringing violence to anybody because they didn't have my view's. All I did, was voice my stinky opinion when asked on this thread on "THE CLUB'S" site.This is what I mean by being taken out of context when typed, and not spoken to someones face. You guy's can assume all you want about me, my belief's, my political reference, ask me face to face and I will tell you. Why remove this thread because of one person's, or few people's opinion, it was brought up for a reason and after reading everyones post's on here I am now leaning the other way, I say keep it on here so we can really see where everybody stands. Now I see where I stand (insert assumption here).

[RebStew]

Why remove this thread because of one person's, or few people's opinion,).

It was a few people not just a one or two. Last night when I typed my book on here it was 6 to 3 in favor of pulling it. Within two hours, or however long it took for the cruise in it switched to 6 to 7 in favor of keeping it. A little bit shocking to me. I also agree about people taking things out of context when typed. After rereading my book I wrote it does come off a little harsh if you didn't know me. Anyone that knows me knows I speak from the heart and I don't hold back or suger coat anything. If I came off a little hard to you that's just the way I talk. If you straight talk with me and don't suger coat your feelings then I have all the respect in the world for you, even if we don't see eye to eye on subjects.

[magicman_1968]

I like to CRUISE......

[RebStew]

I was going to cut the thread today but the pole is pushing to keep it now. Anyone that has not voted can turn this around.

[CustomCabby]

i once put on another forum.... "opinions are like ********, everyone has one! ... but some people should know when not to fart out loud!" and personally, i have a gas problem 24/7. luckily enough, as a "sinner" i still have a relationship with my Savior. and i would put money on it that many of you are much more of a better person then i will ever be. but its what i have learned and decided to follow that makes me.... Me! i have a relationship with a person that willingly took my place on a cross... that doesnt change me as a person when it comes to befriending someone. all that does is change me... for me! not to impress, not to judge others, not to put down for people's views, not to live as i am the only one on the earth... it gives me an open heart to people around me and people i have yet to meet and befriend. oh, and believe me, i do many things that are wrong... but that doesnt change my heart and it doesnt stop me from my hope that i have for my eternity. so i say... keep the board. its nice to know that this forum is one that we can open up and discuss like grown adults and feel accepted for the people we are. i like to think of this forum as a family i hope to soon meet in person and possibly be allowed to bring my rust bucket into the club.

well, i have to go clean up after that gas problem... again!

[Admin]

i once put on another forum.... "opinions are like ********, everyone has one! ... but some people should know when not to fart out loud!" and personally, i have a gas problem 24/7. luckily enough, as a "sinner" i still have a relationship with my Savior. and i would put money on it that many of you are much more of a better person then i will ever be. but its what i have learned and decided to follow that makes me.... Me! i have a relationship with a person that willingly took my place on a cross... that doesnt change me as a person when it comes to befriending someone. all that does is change me... for me! not to impress, not to judge others, not to put down for people's views, not to live as i am the only one on the earth... it gives me an open heart to people around me and people i have yet to meet and befriend. oh, and believe me, i do many things that are wrong... but that doesnt change my heart and it doesnt stop me from my hope that i have for my eternity. so i say... keep the board. its nice to know that this forum is one that we can open up and discuss like grown adults and feel accepted for the people we are. i like to think of this forum as a family i hope to soon meet in person and possibly be allowed to bring my rust bucket into the club.

well, i have to go clean up after that gas problem... again!

WELL SAID!!!

[Lady rebel]

AMEN!!

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