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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 4:45 am

Hey folks!
Enough of my intro thread. Better start my build thread here.
Ive made it quite far on this build in the past year and a half so i have alot of catchin up on here so here it goes.

The day of delivery:
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 4:48 am

First thing i did was see how small i could make the rear windows:
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Then i cut off the roof. Now remember, this is my first build and i have never done anything like this before. Hell, i bought a cheap welder just for this project!
I likely did things wrong and i have learned that along the way, but its okay, im still doing it Smile
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 4:56 am

Next, i had to get the bed in place to see what it might look like:
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AND.....it was fugly, so i needed to shorten it.
I shortened it to my height, 5'10", cause im part redneck like that Very Happy
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I made sure i kept the factory stamped lines in the side and that they all connected in case one day i wanted to complete the body work and make the truck pretty or something.

Next, i chopped the drivers door down:
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Then i picked up this SBC on Craig. I know some will say that im cheating or whatever, for using a 350, but im trying to be realistic here. This is my 1st build and i want to be able to replace parts if i break down on the side of the street. Cant do that with an Olds Rocket as the power plant.
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I did a horrible job putting the cab back together so i had to patch the top :/
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I also tried this visor thing on for size. I was going to do the cardboard areas in expanded metal, but i dont think its the look in going for.
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 5:05 am

I wanted to use 20" wheels.....cause im young enough to think that 20's are cool or something Smile But some big flashy wheels just wont do!
I choose to use 2007 dodge ram 1500 spare wheels . Just setting it up to get the overall look here:
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Picked up a 1968 GMC C15 chassis. Yeah yeah yeah.....IFS scratch but i have a plan!
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UGLY!!!!! And this is with the springs removed!!!!


I decided to move the cab and drivetrain back as far as i could to give an illusion of a suicide axle (obviously its not, but it looks better then factory IFS rats)
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Removed the cab to Zee the frame:
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1/2 way done on 1 side
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Cab back in place to check the look
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I origionally planned on running NO fenders
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Looks pretty cool so far..... but something just doesnt look right. The bed too low? The cab too high?

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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 5:11 am

Sectioning process:
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Looks better. Cab is just sitting here to make sure it looked good.
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Now i need to section the door.
I didnt want a big weld line through the center, so i peeled the skin back, cut the frame, the reinstalled the skin with 3" off the bottom.
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Here it is with the door in place.
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You might notice above that the windshield is split.....with duct tape and cardboard! Smile
I wanted to see if i liked the look.......and i do.

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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 5:23 am

need to get the cab together now.
I used the drops from the section to back all my welds inside since my cuts aren't perfect.
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I wanted to try the rear fenders on for size. I had already narrowed the bed to fit the rear tires.
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CRAP! it looks good. Guyss ill have to mod the bed again to run the fenders Smile

So, here we have fenders installed. I needed to do somthing about the step too so i shortened it to fill in that weird void betqween the bed and cab.
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Rear axle in the one above needs centered. I had it centered in the radius of the factory bead without fenders, but with fenders, its off.
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Wanted to swap for disk brakes up front, this truck will have to work
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I dont know who either of these weird dudes are, but i talked them into drilling the holes for the motor mounts for me .They only broke a handful of bits through the 2 hour process (8 holes!)
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Motor mount in
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Random photo of the frame
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I want to run these caps!
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 5:29 am

Now its time to split that windshield.
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Got this radiator from a neighbor. Im going to run it sideways. Ill tig the cap to the side then rotate it so its thinner rather then wider.
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Mounted the steering column
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Picked up an Alis Chalmer fuel tank for my air intake.
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I will be building my grill shell in he next week or so.
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The top will come to a sharp point and meet the sharp point coming off the bottom of the intake.
Ill use copper tube for the vertical pieces in the grill and the same in the intake.



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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 5:31 am

Well, there ya have it. Thats my build in a nutshell.
Once i hit the 7 day member mark, ill post the video of it Smile

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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 5:44 am

OH, and who can resist a photo of the shop dog?! Smile

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Post by Admin February 28th 2012, 6:22 am

Cool stuff. You are not worried about cutting one up. I like that! Twisted Evil
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 6:24 am

Admin wrote:Cool stuff. You are not worried about cutting one up. I like that! Twisted Evil
Go big or go home right?! Very Happy
Honestly, this build is more of a challenge to myself. If I can make this one work the way it should, then I've just gotten myself into a lifetime hobby....so long as someone doesn't screw it up for us all.

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Post by Admin February 28th 2012, 6:27 am

Jmlcolorado wrote:
Admin wrote:Cool stuff. You are not worried about cutting one up. I like that! Twisted Evil
Go big or go home right?! .
That's right.
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Post by Arieldouglas February 28th 2012, 1:51 pm

Huuuummmmmm?.........I'm thinking this might be your first build. You didn't aquire those skills setting around reading the HAMB though. Razz
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Post by FalconEddie1964 February 28th 2012, 2:26 pm

Love that dog. If he rides along, will he be able to fit his head thru the door window to hang it out into the breeze? Pretty cool stuff there.
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Post by Admin February 28th 2012, 3:10 pm

Arieldouglas wrote:Huuuummmmmm?.........I'm thinking this might be your first build. You didn't aquire those skills setting around reading the HAMB though. Razz
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 3:34 pm

FalconEddie1964 wrote:Love that dog. If he rides along, will he be able to fit his head thru the door window to hang it out into the breeze? Pretty cool stuff there.
Ya know..... I've been trying to figure out a way to smash him in there with me, but his anatomy just doesn't work with the one and only option to sit in the truck Rolling Eyes
I'm still trying to figure out how to sq ueeze the 8 year old between me and mom for trips Cool

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Post by FalconEddie1964 February 28th 2012, 4:19 pm

You'll just have to cut a camper shell down and put on the bed. That way everybody will fit. Probably not too many cut up camper specials around.
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 28th 2012, 7:47 pm

That would be freakin cool! Use the back of another cab to keep the same body lines and curves. Build a removable topper

Do 2 long mail slots full length on each side, then match the 2 mail slot rear windows on the back!

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Post by Chris55 February 29th 2012, 12:42 am

Nice work. Are you going to cut the frame horns off, or leave them long?
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Post by Jmlcolorado February 29th 2012, 12:48 am

Chris55 wrote:Nice work. Are you going to cut the frame horns off, or leave them long?
Frame horns have to come off! They have been bugging me since I got the frame, but I've been waiting to build the radiator shell before they get modified. They will end up looking like the ends of a model a frame with a cross bar in place.
It's been tough cause I want them to get cut back a lot but the steering box will dictate how far back they go.

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Post by Brownie February 29th 2012, 5:31 pm

Big thumbs up! Your ride will be one of a kind. Not a cookie cutter car. Been wanting to cut the top on the 38 coupe but didnt have the guts. Just want to take 1.5 out of it. Just to make them think!
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Post by Cratethis March 2nd 2012, 1:19 am

Looks good. Can't wait to see what you get done on it this year.
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Post by Jmlcolorado March 2nd 2012, 6:56 am

Well the UPS man strikes again! Very Happy
Got my exhaust tubing to start building my grill shell.
Just got 3 90's and 2 45's.
Stupid me for thinking it would be easy to make these pieces look good!
Started with something like this
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Trying to find a good aesthetic angle
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Built a quick jig to keep it all straight
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Round 1 fail!
It's too big and doesn't have any character
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Ended up narrowing it 4", then shortening it 3" then angleing the top down 10 degrees
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Looks great I think.
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The extra piece of tube on the bottom is for an easy spot to place the weld clamp to.

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Post by JRiggs March 2nd 2012, 7:15 am

heck i thought you was going to attach that extra piece of tube in with the radiator


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Post by Jmlcolorado March 2nd 2012, 3:51 pm

JRiggs wrote:heck i thought you was going to attach that extra piece of tube in with the radiator


cheers
That would make for 1 hot grill shell! Smile




It's got a long ways to go. I am going to grind all the welds then sheet the sides with 18 gauge.
The only think I'm worried about is the top. I have a feeling it's going to look too flat like the kitchen table :/

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