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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 1:06 am

I'm starting to think that stuffing this 460 in this car was a really bad mistake. We should have went with a smaller engine.
I went last night and picked up the engine and trans. That was a story all on it's own. Mad
I woke up this morning and shoved the gasser out the door and moved the 460 over in front to start dropping it in. Easy swap??? The cherry picker wouldn't go hi enough to clear the radiator support. It was getting top heavy and bending. So I cut out the support!.
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 1:17 am

It is starting to become a nightmare. The trans tunnel is so small it won't even try to sit back inside the tunnel. Out comes the cut off wheel to make room for a bigger tunnel. Now we are cooking!??? NOPE the exhaust manifolds are hitting the steering box and frame on the other side. I figured that I may be able to flip the manifold over. I went in and got online to find this pic.
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Yeap They can be flipped!. I go back out and take them off. I flip the one and it's still hitting the steering box! even if we moved the box and put joints on the shaft it would end up hitting the brake master. Okay lets try the other side. NOPE, it's shooting to close to the firewall! 🐘
$400.00 headers are not in the budget...
So I flip the manifold over and upside down and run them through the fenderwells. If we keep the 460 we will need to have some pipes bent to kick the exhaust to the back of the car. Summit sells these mandrel bent U's for that.
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 1:24 am

Even with the manifold off it is still close. The engine has to be raised up out of the engine bay a little more.
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I get it up and get the other manifold to work. Cutting the freshly done fenderwells made me a bit unhappy as well. I was going to shove the engine back inside the firewall to to gain some traction and weight distribution but it's not going any further than it is because of the master and the steering column. On to the trans. The cross member will not work. So I had to make one of of 2"X2" stock. It's not finished but enough to hold it for now. I drop the weight down on the wheels!!!!!
over 800 pounds put a hurt on the gasser.
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 1:25 am

It dropped!
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 1:33 am

Measuring from the back rocker down to the ground and from the front of the rocker to the ground shows over a 3" drop in the front compared to the back. Thats without everything on the car. We could put 3" blocks and longer shackels on it BUT....
It gets worse! The springs are flat out. There is too much weight for the front springs. It has hardly any travel and is unsafe the way it is. I think if we was to hook up and the weight of the car came down hard it could snap the springs. If we keep the 460 I think we are going to have to have Brighton Spring make us a set of custom springs for the front.
I'm open for suggestions. This has put a real damper on my spirits tonight.
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Post by big dogs 42 November 15th 2008, 1:37 am

We will go get the windsheild tomorrow and ill bring my big shoe horn over and the blocks for the front end Looks good STEVE WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN THEIR TO HELP YOU! sometimes with engine swaps it's like trying to put a round peg in a square hole but with a little bit of determination and a big hammer you can make it happen !!!! Laughing I Doug are you happy now !! Cool
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 1:57 am

big dogs 42 wrote:We will go get the windsheild tomorrow Cool
'Dog do ya have any idea what time ya want to leave?
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Post by big dogs 42 November 15th 2008, 2:14 am

Hows 11 am
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 3:21 am

big dogs 42 wrote:Hows 11 am
Sounds good to me.
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Post by falconwagon62 November 15th 2008, 7:53 pm

Steve and Dennis just left, we pulled the windsheild in the FREEZING cold.......darn why didn't we do this this summer!!!

John

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Dennis was loosing he pants....oh god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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big dogs 42 wrote:Hows 11 am
Sounds good to me.
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Post by LRS30 November 15th 2008, 8:30 pm

DOG is straight up gangsta "pant's saggin' spray paint for the taggin', bitches raggin' YO!"
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 11:37 pm

Funny thing is ?? Dog was really loosing his pants and John had to pull them up on him before they hit his ankles.LOL Laughing Oh crap.. I still cracking up..When I seen John yank 'em up I told them that should have been on camera.
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 11:47 pm

Again, John has helped us out in a VERY big way. We got the windshield out of this car he just bought.
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Here's John getting the seal loose from the glass.
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It's always fun to go to Johns. He always has something new sitting around that is just plain cool. Here's his new panel.
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When we tell you it's cold up there it's COLD! It went from rain and very cold weather quick. My fingers were frozen to were I was holding them in front of the ready heater to warm them up. And it kept getting colder felt like. Think I'm kidding? That is snow on Dogs shirt.
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Post by RebStew November 15th 2008, 11:53 pm

John has helped out this gasser project a few times, more than some will ever know! Thank you very much John. If you need anything at all just scream!
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Post by RebStew November 17th 2008, 9:55 pm

I fabbed up a set of front mounts to hold the engine. They will need to be taken off later, cleaned up and painted but the engine is now resting on it's own mounts. I'm heading back out now to play with the crossmember and tranny mount. Very Happy
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Post by Lady rebel November 18th 2008, 2:41 am

Steve said we need a seal for the windsheild. I'll put in the first $20. If anyone can help out please do. Even if it's $5. We don't have any funds for the gasser. Our club money is a seperate fund. Thanks, Amy
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Post by big dogs 42 November 18th 2008, 4:06 am

Put me down for a ten spot come on guys at least match me!!! You spend more than that at a fast food joint! Cool
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Post by falconwagon62 November 18th 2008, 12:58 pm

Hey guys,

I bought the , when they come in I'll give you a buzz....I also got me 4 of them....

John
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Post by FalconEddie1964 November 18th 2008, 1:59 pm

big dogs 42 wrote: You spend more than that at a fast food joint! Cool

Ok, I'm good for $10 when ya see me. I don't know if I'll make it though, doing without the 10 Double Cheese Burgers for me and my girls (Madonna and the two dogs LOL) It would be nice to have a windshield in when I start driving it to and from work. The next collection should be for a radio and A/C.
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Post by big dogs 42 November 18th 2008, 4:06 pm

You be ok Doug your like me you can live off the fat of the land as for the dogs give them a extra bowl of kibble and i know you got enough money to get Modanna a cheeseburger ! Smile Where are the rest of the Scroungers i can see you out there hideing behin you wallets and purses !!!
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Post by RebStew November 18th 2008, 4:27 pm

falconwagon62 wrote:Hey guys,

I bought the , when they come in I'll give you a buzz....I also got me 4 of them....

John
Thanks John. I bought one already. Very Happy
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Post by RebStew November 18th 2008, 4:32 pm

I didn't get to the trans mount and cross member last night. I went ahead and grabbed a master to see if it fit. We are good on the master! I also stuck the radiator down in the bay to see where we are with it. 1" of clearance should work! It's not bolted in or anything but we have clearance.
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Post by RebStew November 18th 2008, 5:02 pm

I just talked to Dog. We are gonna work on the gasser tomorrow(Wensday) if anyone wants to stop down. Should be there late after 4pm.
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Post by 6-71Kid November 18th 2008, 5:50 pm

I'm in for 10. And I might try and make it down tomorrow.
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